Oceans Twelve REAL PROPER DVDR-Centropy torrent

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Title.............: Ocean's Twelve

Ripper...........: Brad Pitt

Date.............: 09-03-2005

Supplier.........: George Clooney

Quality..........: DVDR

Archives........: 95*50

Genre...........: Comedy/Crime/Thriller

Rating..........: 6.1/10



First of all :



We're sorry the real deal took this much time, but we

weren't sure IF we should bring out a real proper, while we had every

right to do so in the first place.



We discussed it alot amongst ourselves and came to the conclusion that



1-click-rips shouldn't be celebrated as they are nowadays in the scene.

We always tried (and still do) to bring the scene the best possible

releases in the best possible quality, and it may be silly, but that's

what we expect from other crews too.



What we are trying to say is that we don't mind being beaten if it is

by a quality crew with a quality product. If you are faster than us,

and deliver quality : respect. But nowadays sites, in the struggle to

be regarded as a topsite, take on riffraff groups who have no intention

of bringing quality, but just to rush out stuff to pimp their groupname.

It might be nice they have a supply.. but does that mean the scene

should allow crap to be pre'd? Should the scene even allow these groups

the light of day?



There was a time groups like this were dealt with,

swiftly.. but alas - those days seem long past.



Since we believe things can still change for the better, we decided to

bring the scene a quality rip of this dvd.

And oh.. we even have proper reasons ! Here we go:



MPTDVD release



* Subs

English subs are on by default. Foreign subs are unusable while I

tested by using daemon/mpc. There are also 2 substreams specified as

chinese which contain nothing. While using my standalone they work from

menu, but trying the subtitle button on my remote english is the only choice.

* Menu

Tried to strip out the french LU's, but managed to keep the french

subtitle menu. Examining it in ifoedit shows complete disarray when

comparing to original. All in all.. menu is raped. There's no nice word

for it.



* Missing Scenes

Missing 18 seconds of footage at around 1:08:20 (MPT dvdr time). For

some reason this is exactly where BRUTUS xvid has its CD change.



* Picture Quality

Blur-o-matic.



*Interlacing

Examining the sample I found one single frame that shows interlacing.

Not really a worthy reason we think but kept in for completeness sake.

I wouldn't be suprised if there were more interlaced frames, but it

already was obvious that this was a 1-clicker, so no point on checking

it all.



* VIDEO_TS.VOB

There is none on the original DVD9 - there is one in this release.

1-clickers tend to create these files for you.. and thus leave a trace.



* DVDInfo Pro

Implementation id DVD Shrink





SHINBET release



* Audio Tracks

Kept both 5.1ch and 2.0ch english. Also didn't remove the ID's for the

stripped tracks (french and reserved) not included.



* Menu

Kept all of the french LU's and reencoded the english ones to save

space. Didn't menu-edit audio menu so stripped audios are selectable

and point to non-existant audio tracks.



* Picture Quality

Poor at best.



* Extra

Although the original DVD9 doesn't carry many extras, they HAVE to be

ripped on this one to preserve watchable dvd-bitrate. ShinBet didn't

bother to remove neither the trailers in front of the movie, nor the

company-logo, nor the copyright notices, nor the trailer of the movie

itself. Which brings us to :



* Bitrate

Specified bitrate in nfo is 4700 kbit/s. Extracting the .m2v yields a

file thats 3.607.116.434 bytes. Runtime is 125 minutes.

Calculating 3607116434 / (125 * 60) / 1024 * 8 gives us 3757 kbit/s.

Compare that to our 4205. But i'm sure that was just a typo tho, right?



* DVDInfo Pro

Implementation id DVD Shrink





Which brings us to our own stats :



Video: 6-pass CCE reencode @ 4205 kbps.

Audio: 5.1 English.

Subs: English, Spanish, French.

Ripped: Extras, logo's, rest of the audio, and french menu to get

bitrate at a decent level.

Source: WS. Retail R1



In conclusion we thank you for reading this far and sincerely hope

that you don't have to read another one like it as much as we hope

another one like it doesn't have to be written.



P.S.

Remember who released Ocean's Eleven DVDR almost 3 years ago?



*Movie Cast



Imdb : Check out -> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0349903/



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